When someone is multiple ply behind you or not seeing all of the relevant dimensions they might say "I'm happy to believe that… but first prove to me that water is wet".

· Bits and Bobs 4/22/24

Those discussions take forever and are pushing a rock up hill that might roll back at any time.

The only way to avoid them is collaborators who already have the knowhow to sense the dimension, and no higher-ranking people you need to convince who don't have the necessary knowhow.

If a junior person doesn't get it but can execute anyway that's fine.

If a person who has the authority to block you doesn't get it, it can be a serious problem.